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Shoe asked in SportsCricket · 1 decade ago

Sri Lanka has some very good batsmen, but are any of them great?

Here’s a look at their averages:

NT Paranavitana

Home: 43.69

Away: 28.75

Difference: 14.94

TM Dilshan

Home: 47.11

Away: 40.57

Difference: 6.54

KC Sangakkara

Home: 62.97

Away: 50.24

Difference: 12.73

DPMD Jayawardene

Home: 65.44

Away / Neutral: 42.15

Difference: 23.29

TT Samaraweera

Home: 59.1

Away: 44.07

Difference: 15.03

AD Mathews

Home: 45.16

Away: 29.8

Difference: 15.36

HAPW Jayawardene

Home: 34.31

Away: 27.47

Difference: 6.84

That’s a difference of 94.73 among their top 7. It’s also a difference of 51.05 among their three top batsmen. At first glance it looks like a batting lineup full of greats. On second glance – it’s clear that Sangakkara is very good (great?) but while the others have decent averages, are they really just a bunch of flat track bullies?

Update:

@ The Prince of Clear Voice:

1. Don't get me wrong. I'm a New Zealander who has been amazed & impressed at what Sri Lanka has achieved since becoming a test playing nation. But I noticed the difference in Sangakkara's home & away average so decided to look at the others. I do like the Indian side, but it matters little to me who wins this series.

2. Yes I did add the differences to give an average difference for home & away of the top 7. Is there a problem with that? I could have divided it by 7 and given an average difference of 13.5 per wicket. That's still a huge difference! (In fact it's exactly the same difference as 94.73 across the top 7.) Having majored in maths & having been a maths teacher, I haven't recently considered maths tuition, but I would certainly appreciate your insight into my shortcomings on that front.

3. You haven't answered the question.

Update 2:

@ The Prince of Clear Voice:

No, I'm not a refugee, though I have nothing against them, and count the one refugee I know well as a good friend. And I'm grateful that I haven't been through the experiences he has.

However I am a diehard cricket fan. If you'd like to see my opinion of Murali have a look at my answer here:

http://nz.answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=Ai...

or here:

http://nz.answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=Al...

You also might like to have a look at my answer here:

http://nz.answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=Au...

I'm not anti Sri Lanka. I did however notice the huge difference in the home and away stats, which led me to ask this question.

Update 3:

I didn't talk about the bowlers because this is a question about batsmen.

Eliminating Mathews changes the average difference marginally to 13.23 per wicket.

Update 4:

I also have no problem admitting that New Zealand hasn't produced so many greats: http://nz.answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=Ap...

Update 5:

Once more: This time for SIR 101. I'm not Indian. I'm actually of Scottish ancestry. Real cricket fans can ask questions about other countries without an ulterior motive.

Good night.

Update 6:

@ The Prince of Clear Voice:

Maybe it would be surprising for me to wake up at 2:10 on a Tuesday morning to post questions about the SL batsmen, but there could be any number of viable excuses - insomnia, shiftwork etc that would make it less sinister. In fact the truth is that I don't live in NZ so it wasn't 2:10am when I posted the question.

It may be surprising that this question is posted just before the start of a SL vs India match...but then again, as a New Zealander, I don't usually spend alot of time checking SL batting averages. In fact the only time I would bother to look at them is when Sri Lanka is playing a series. Looked at from that point of view, the timing of my question doesn't appear sinister either.

You also asked why I don't talk about Sanath Jayasuriya. Well, he's retired - the same reason I don't talk about Aravinda de Silva.

Update 7:

Since a number of people have said the same is true for India, I decided to check. It's true for all of their players except for two of the three considered their greatest:

Tendulkar:

Home: 55.72

Away: 56.47

Difference: -0.75

Dravid:

Home: 49.75

Away: 55.94

Difference: -6.19

Sehwag shows the same trend as the Sri Lankans, but (like Sangakkara) his numbers are high enough to suggest he rates amongst the very best:

Home: 58.2

Away: 51.58

Difference: 6.62

Update 8:

I also looked at a number of other 'greats':

Ponting, Lara & Sobers were similar to Sangakkara & Sehwag.

Kallis, G Chappell & V. Richards had very simmilar numbers at home & away (Richards was slightly higher away).

Javed Miandad:

Home: 61.38

Away: 45.8

Difference: 15.58

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  • 1 decade ago
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    To me, only Aravinda,Mahela and Sanga are in that elite category.They may or may not have the averages to back it up but they are extremely good batsmen.Mahela haven't had too many chances in Aus,NZ and SA to show his talent but that is no excuse for his dismal away record.But he started playing better as he matured.First 3 years of the noughties were really bad for him..

    Angelo Mathews,Dinesh Chandimal and Lahiru Thirimanne are the potential future greats of SL batting and their away record should also improve as did SL with every new generation. Mathews is a quality batsman and his averages don't mean much he has only played a few games.

    Average of 40+ away is more than good and of course at home you are supposed to dominate.

    To be in the Same Category as Viv Richards,Lara, Sachin etc only Sanga is able to do that from SL.And I don't consider someone like Kallis to be a great batsman(great cricketer no doubt) even though his record is probably the best out there.

    Liked your question and yes I'm a Lankan.

  • 5 years ago

    Mahela Jayawardene Sanath Jayasurya Arvinda D Silva Kumara Sangakarra Marvan Attapattu

  • ?
    Lv 5
    1 decade ago

    Ok how about you talking about batting averages of players from other countries, specially India? Sanga, Jayawardne, Dilshan and Samaweera all have great avg. away. Difference is always the case for any ''great'' batsman.. Indian team is ''said to'' contain ''great'' players but none of them could be considered real match winners.. They cannot play under pressure and SL always trash them in important games, games that matter... This is why they say that the Indian players are so good at one thing... ''modelling'' but suck at ''cricketing'' ....

  • 1 decade ago

    If we keep averages aside, then there are many legendary batsman Sri Lanka had produced. Like Sanath Jayasuriya. He scored a magnificent 340 against India at Colombo. Then, Mahela is another legend. He just shied by 26 runs to get the 400 mark. Also Sangakkara is an amazing batsman. You can't forget Arjuna Ranatunga for his contributions to Sri Lanka cricket. Chaminda Vaas, Muttiah Muralidaran and many others are big names for Sri Lankan bowling attack.

  • 1 decade ago

    Kumar Sangakkara is certainly up there with the best. He's probably in Tier 2 of batting greats, in the company of Rahul Dravid and Jacques Kallis.

    Mahela Jayawardene is an undisputed flat track bully. I loathe comparisons and analysis of cricket statistics, but this one is too good to resist.

    All his test innings of 200 or more have come in the subcontinent... Consider his only ton in India, where he made 275. Where was this made? Right, on the dead wicket of Ahmedabad not too long ago. Heres the scorecard, hundreds galore...

    http://www.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/430881.htm...

    Reminds you of the recent SSC test I'm sure...

    So lets re-calculate Mahela's average in India by excluding this innings. Thatll be 353 runs in 9 innings, a mediocre average of 39.22.

    You can do the same for his performances in Pakistan, where he has made one score of 240. He wasnt the only one, as Samaraweera made his own double ton and Younus made a triple!

    http://www.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/388993.htm...

    His next best effort on Pakistani soil is just 57.

    To put it simply, his away average of 42.15 is way over inflated thanks to those 2 high scores in India and Pakistan. He is a stylish batsman, VVS Laxman type, but not good enough.

    edit: Forgot to include his modified away/neutral average after excluding those 2 innings... It comes to 36.775. Difference of nearly 30.

  • 1 decade ago

    k..we beat england 5-0 we are flat track bullies..we rape India both home and away we are still flat track bullies..We kick the A**es of New zealeaders both home and away we are still flat track bullies..Australia aren't even coming to play with us since years ago..

    BTW u know India are no.1..I just assume that u are an Indian refugee living in New Zealand cuz it's perfectly clear that u are trying to degrade SL and trying to be nice by calling Sangakkara great so that we won't suspect that u are an Indian cuz u are saying something Nice..Obviously u spend a lot of time copy pasting every batsman's average from test match summary so u surely have to be outraged by SL's latest performance..U are Indian mate..don't try to hide it..No matter where u live Indian are all the same...

    Anyway all our batsmen's away average is still a bit higher than all the Indians Home average which is even more shameful..

    edit: Remove NT Paranavitana and Methews from the list..They just started international cricket and are yet to debut on a series away..

    Source(s): Artificial Intelligence
  • 1 decade ago

    All of them are worthless.Sangakarra's away average is highly inflated by his scores against Zimbabwe & Bangladesh.

    His only century of any importance abroad,192 in Australia,was also made on a flat pitch.

    The less said about the others,the better it will be.

  • 1 decade ago

    You're right. If we go by the average, only Sangakara stands there. This is why SL are known as the lions of their own land. They become wet cats when they come outside of their country.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    I am agree with this answer. Good data and analysis of them.

  • 1 decade ago

    ya sangakarra and jayawardene are the two batting legends for test cricket.. and bastmans like samaraveera had got lot of good partnerships with those two... when dilshan gives them a good start then they had a really good batting line up

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