Okay Goddamnit, Choose is Jesus God or the Son of God?

God impregnated Mary with himself so he could take human form. He is his own son.

Don't try to make sense of it. You're supposed to just accept it and believe it's true because the Bible says it.

Hi There....

Because you have targeted one of the most important topics in the bible,

I could put an 'answer' and so what??? What does that say?

So, please allow me to put forward a little on this, OK?

On this earth, Smith and son...say...run the automechanics shop.

Is the son ....Smith?

Yet he is also the son, right?

So we have Father Smith and Son Smith. Both are Smith.

So Jesus is Son of God = God also.

The Jews knew this, wanted to stone Jesus for blasphemy....

they knew EXACTLY what He was saying.

But today, people don't see this always.

But the main church of Christians do see this. Some groups,

I call them Watchtower group, and Mormons do not believe this.

Jesus said 'I AM ...the life'....

Imagine if someone said THAT to you....'I am the life'. No human can do that.

Jesus said many other things also that show this.

Unfortunately, you are going to find a very ...wide spectrum here of

who believes what.

Simple answer. Holy Trinity.

God, the Father; God, the Son; and God, the Holy Spirit. They are still one.

God the eternal Son became incarnate in Jesus Christ. Through Him all things were created, the character of God is revealed, the salvation of humanity is accomplished, and the world is judged. Forever truly God, He became also truly man, Jesus the Christ. He was conceived of the Holy Spirit and born of the virgin Mary. He lived and experienced temptation as a human being, but perfectly exemplified the righteousness and love of God. By His miracles He manifested God's power and was attested as God's promised Messiah. He suffered and died voluntarily on the cross for our sins and in our place, was raised from the dead, and ascended to minister in the heavenly sanctuary in our behalf. He will come again in glory for the final deliverance of His people and the restoration of all things. (John 1:1-3, 14; Col. 1:15-19; John 10:30; 14:9; Rom. 6:23; 2 Cor. 5:17-19; John 5:22; Luke 1:35; Phil. 2:5-11; Heb. 2:9-18; 1 Cor. 15:3, 4; Heb. 8:1, 2; John 14:1-3.)

Jesus is the son of god (Jehovah). He is not part of a trinity. The trinity in itself is confusing. At 1 John 4:8 the Bible states, "He that does not love has not come to know God, because God is love" Notice that it said, "God is love"? Then why would he want to confuse people by claiming to be part of a trinity? That wouldn't make any sense.

The answer is 'yes!' and you think you are confused?

Basically Yahweh gave prophecy - promises of what would happen in history - about Him coming down to earth in human form and how He would be born and die. Daniel gives the time lines; David gives the way He was to die and Isaiah provides significant details on how He would be born in a prophetic action to fulfill prophecies. Other prophets provide additional information.

And, then, wham, bam, He is born, lives and dies according to these prophecies exactly - some made thousands of years beforehand - all to fulfill them within prophetic actions that have a physical and spiritual reaction and result.

There is no physical or spiritual reason why Yahweh Himself cannot appear in human form on earth - Satan does it all the time, especially in covens on special satanic occasions. Find out who Melchizedek was - a previous incarnation of Yahweh as a high-priest to whom Abraham gave tithes. This is why the Muslims leave him out of their version of when Abraham met the angels on their way to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah.

As a human, He acted like a human but was hugely anointed with the Holy Spirit which meant He had a hot line to our Father and did exactly what He commanded. Emmanuel - 'God with us' - Jesus in human form but 'god' in heaven. Even His Hebrew name was exceptionally similar if not the same. We know He studied from a young age and became a Rabbi - although other books state that He was born with absolute knowledge.

It was only when He redeemed us and Himself through absolute obedience in undertaking all prophesied and commanded at the cross, that He ascended again to be our gateway and advocate to heaven - became part of the godhead again- 'Hear, O Israel, our god is one god'.

So, is He the Son of God? Is He God (or rather Yahweh)? The answer is yes in both cases.

So, you as a male attend school as a boy and, as a man become a father to have a child and later become a grandfather - you are still you!

Either way, it's confusing and leaves questions. If he's God, how does a God die, why would he let himself die, and why did Jesus talk about God in the 3rd person instead of the 1st? If he's the son of God, where did he get his Y chromosome from? Does this mean God has a sex and he's male?

Son of Yahweh, elevated to the Highest Exalted Position in the Universe, to the Right Hand of the Father. Most Holy Almighty Yahweh there is but One.

Jesus is Son of God. He is the first begotten Son of God. His purpose was to fulfill

the Messianic promise to the people of Israel and to extend his Salvation to all who believe.

Don't have to be confused friend, let me say something that will absolutely clarify your mind. Jesus is both God and His son. See, it all makes sense.

“Yeshua ben Joseph, whom you call Jesus of Nazareth, is a great God, just as you are a great God. But he is not the only son of God; he is a son of God. He was a man who became God, just as you will become God.

What did Yeshua teach? That he is the son of God, and indeed he is. But he also openly proclaimed that everyone is also a son of God. He taught nothing other than that. Everyone is God expressing his perfection as man. And what good would it be for the father to have so many children who are imbeciles and only one who is perfect? It would not be a very good reflection on the Father. Yeshua is your brother, not your savior. He was a man who had God within him, just as you have God within you.

Yeshua lived on this plane at a time when man did not love man, when man was in bondage to man, and love was not held in high regard. But Yeshua exemplified love for everyone. It was that same love that would foster his being hailed savior of the world, for he brought love to this plane where very few expressed it and he gave it openly to everyone.

He also brought the teaching that the Father is not a God of judgment and retribution but an all-loving God of mercy, grace, and compassion. Unfortunately, that understanding has been greatly altered throughout history and through the writings of those who very much failed to understand the simple teaching of this immaculate soul.

Yeshua loved. That was his great and magnificent gift to mankind. And he openly proclaimed that the source of that love was the Father that lived within him, the same Father that lived within all people. What gave Yeshua the freedom and power to embrace all humanity was that he knew that the Father and he were one and the same. He peeled away all the illusions that caused him to live an hypocrisy, and by doing so he expressed completely the Father that lived within him. In that, Yeshua became a Christ: man expressing wholly as God; God expressing completely in man. That is what the term Christ means: God/man, man/God. A Christ is anyone who realizes that he is God and then lives that truth.

The only difference between Yeshua and you is that Yeshua understood the principle of God within man and then he lived that principle completely. For that, he is indeed a grand entity. But you are also a grand entity who possesses the same nobleness and the same love to become what he became. Yeshua is not responsible for saving you or anyone else.

Through the realization that he was God living on Earth, he became the savior of himself, who then taught others how to be their own salvation through the God within themselves. He taught everyone, "What I have done, all may do, for the Father and you are one. Your kingdom is not of this place. The kingdom of heaven is within you." And he spoke not of hell; he spoke of life and its beauty.”

Ramtha – J Z Knight