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sami
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sami asked in Society & CultureHolidaysRamadan · 1 decade ago

did you notice that?

it is said that:

smart people discuss Ideas (theories/concepts).

regular people discuss things (objects).

dumb people discuss other people.

by applying this to the questions (religious questions) here on R section, you can see that very few are about theology or principles of Islam. while most of the questions are about persons, like: (was Mohammad this, was Abu-Bakr that, was Omar this etc...)

maybe i haven't been on this section for too long as many of you, but am i right?

because i see some really good questions asked by honest people that deserve good answers, and some really nasty question asked by people who only want to give themselves a reason not to believe.

Update:

@AJ Nasser

oh no, im not talking about trolls, sara ex and omarx are out of range (of reason). so im not talking about them...

Update 2:

@.

so? then? therefore? however? thus? ...

Update 3:

@safiy

fair enough

Update 4:

@Ali M

if someone claims he is at the same level as Prophets, knows when he is gonna die... then it is very safe to say that he doesn't know $hit.

Update 5:

@Love Allah-THE REAL ONE

no, im not talking about you sister :)

Update 6:

@K

017.046

YUSUFALI: And We put coverings over their hearts (and minds) lest they should understand the Qur'an, and deafness into their ears: when thou dost commemorate thy Lord and Him alone in the Qur'an, they turn on their backs, fleeing (from the Truth).

PICKTHAL: And We place upon their hearts veils lest they should understand it, and in their ears a deafness; and when thou makest mention of thy Lord alone in the Qur'an, they turn their backs in aversion.

SHAKIR: And We have placed coverings on their hearts and a heaviness in their ears lest they understand it, and when you mention your Lord alone in the Quran they turn their backs in aversion.

it says clearly "lord alone" not "quran alone"

so i dont really know what you're talking about

Update 7:

039.045

YUSUFALI: When Allah, the One and Only, is mentioned, the hearts of those who believe not in the Hereafter are filled with disgust and horror; but when (gods) other than He are mentioned, behold, they are filled with joy!

PICKTHAL: And when Allah alone is mentioned, the hearts of those who believe not in the Hereafter are repelled, and when those (whom they worship) beside Him are mentioned, behold! they are glad.

SHAKIR: And when Allah alone is mentioned, the hearts of those who do not believe in the hereafter shrink, and when those besides Him are mentioned, lo! they are joyful.

so where is this "Quran alone" that you claim?

Update 8:

@K

do you know that "ALLAH WAHID" is in none of those verses !

it says "Allaho Wahdaho". !!!

so according to you, all those 3 translators are wrong and biased, all the yahoo users who speak Arabic including myself who are telling you what does it mean are all liars !!!

and you and only you, who clearly don't have any Arabic skills (no offense) are correct ! wow!

im sorry but that's the definition of arrogant.

Update 9:

@K

who is running like a zebra now?

Update 10:

@K

dear brother zebra, here is a simple explanation:

compare those two sentences :

ركضت وحدي كالحمار

i ran alone like a zebra

ركضت كالحمار وحدي

i ran like a zebra alone.

cane you say that the word "alone" is concerning the "zebra"? not "i"?

of course you can't because it doesn't make any sense.

you can also replace "zebra" with a some place like "court".

so the sentence will become :

-i ran in the court alone.

or

-i ran alone in the court.

both means that i ran in the curt alone(only me, with nobody else with me).

if the meaning was "only the court" , then the sentence should be :

- i ran only in the court.

or

- i ran in the court only.

do you get it now?

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  • 1 decade ago
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    As'salaamu Alaikum,

    Personally, some of the insulting questions - particularly the ones where they quote Quran or hadith, are quite enlightening.

    They showcase the struggle many have in private.

    People struggle with questions of faith every day and judging from the amount of hadith and ayat that are quoted, those that call themselves ex-muslims do quite a bit of reading themselves.

    They say out loud what many are afraid to ask.

    I thank Allah swt for our (ex?) brothers and sisters and pray for Allah swt to help them to overcome their doubts and open their hearts.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    a very thought provoking answer it was ,it could change one's life and destination (Jannah/Jahannum)

    a crucial difference, rememeber you deleted your question,out of arrogance...rememeber 17:46 says Quran Wahid,and 39:45 says Allah Wahid.

    you couldnt take this TRUTH,,and you deleted your question.

    who twisted what , is evident from Arabic Word

    القرءان وحده17:46

    and

    39:45 الله وحده

    17:46 وجعلنا على قلوبهم اكنة ان يفقهوه وفى ءاذانهم وقرا واذا ذكرت ربك فى القرءان وحده ولوا على ادبرهم نفورا

    get the word right

    now 39:45 says ALLAH ALONE

    39:45 واذا ذكر الله وحده اشمازت قلوب الذين لا يومنون بالءاخرة واذا ذكر الذين من دونه اذا هم يستبشرون

    17:46 We place shields over their hearts, that they should not understand it, and deafness in their ears. If you mention your Lord in the QURAN ALONE, they run away turning their backs in aversion.

    39:45 When ALLAH ALONE is mentioned, the hearts of those who do not acknowledge the Hereafter are filled with aversion; and when others are mentioned beside Him, they rejoice!

    Those who do not acknowledge the hereafter with certainty will not understand the Quran, and they will claim that the Quran is difficult or even impossible to understand on its own. See 54:17,22,32,and 40. Traditional translations and commentaries somehow separate the word “Quran” from the adjective (wahdahu = alone, only) that follows it. They translate it as "Lord alone in the Quran." Though there are many verses emphasizing God's oneness (see 39:45), this verse could be understood as another one emphasizing that message. However, this could be only a secondary meaning of this particular verse, since the adjective wahdehu is used not after the word Rab (Lord) but after the word Quran. In Arabic if one wants to say ‘Quran alone,’ the only way of saying it is "Quranun wahdahu."

    Now this is Quranic Proof,and tell abul harrith to smash his head,for his utter ignorance,and disbelief and hypocrisy

    dont run like a zebra now !

    @ i am glad you answered,see the arabic Quran,the translators you have quoted have twisted the meaning,see arabic ,and see the difference,and see who has twisted the translation and duped you all

    i know you will not believe the arabic verses i have pasted,,,i am sure you have Glorious Quran at home open ,it see what arabic Verses say the word is 'ALLAH WAHID" in 39:45,

    and the word is 'QURAN WAHID" in 17:46,do i have to teach you what does WAHID MEAN !

    i am sure you dont know what i am talking about ,,you know why ??

    BECAUSE

    17:46 We place shields over their hearts, that they should not understand it, and deafness in their ears. If you mention your Lord in the QURAN ALONE, they run away turning their backs in aversion.

    Source(s): and you know why ? [37:35] When they were told, "Laa Elaaha Ella Allah," they turned arrogant. Thanks for correction,,AllAho Wahduhu,,means Allah Alone right ? "Quranun wahdahu." what does this mean again Allaho Wahudu ? so by your understanding and your translator's understanding "Allaho Wahduhu" and "Quranun Wahduhu" means the same ? absolutely No difference in the meaning of these Two Phrases or Expressions between Allahu Wahduhu & Quranun Wahduhu ? if the word Quran and Allah are not different and the same,then could we change the word Allah in Our Shahadah with Quran ? plz enlighten me brother ! and you have very well said "it says Allaho Wahdohu" but what about "Quranun Wahduhu " could you plz explain brother zebra ! WAHDUHU = ONE/ONLY/ALONE word "ALLAH" i am certain every one knows what Allah means word "Quran" . every one knows what "Quran" means then what does "Quranun Wahduhu" means ? you still haven explained QURANUN WAHDUHU..dont give me circular arguments of court,we are not talking about court we are talking about QURANUN WAHDUHU.come on tell me
  • Hmm, well I personally ask a mixture (but not so much about the 3rd category - check my profile if you wanna check!)

    and that makes me what? Smart? Regular? (whatever that is! I'll have a regular coke with the fries) or Dumb?

  • _
    Lv 6
    1 decade ago

    Yeah I agree 100%.

    It frustrates me how basic my knowledge on Islam is, I wish I had the knowledege to have an intellegent discussion on my beliefs. Insha'Allah.

    I wish there were more profound questions here and moral discussions. I wish we all wouldn't jump down eachothers neck for no apparent reason. I wish that the deep people would come here and ask questions that would really get me thinking.

  • 1 decade ago

    yup just i definately agree with ramadan kareem 100%

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    Very nice, I agree.

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