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People have been dying of HIV/AIDS for decades. Where is the vax for that?

How is it that a covid vax was developed so quickly it made heads spin, while poor AIDS and HIV patients have been dying without their very own vaccine for decades now? Why the discrepancy?

When researching this question, the common refrain was always... "Finding an effective AIDS/HIV vaccine is difficult because the virus rapidly mutates."  Now that stories abound about new covid mutations we must question how covid vaccines are still considered safe and effective.

 The United States’ drug regulator, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA), said last week COVID vaccines updated for variants won’t need to go through full randomised controlled clinical trials. (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

The booster shots will only be required to undergo initial testing to check they are safe and produce an immune response.  Let me at it, I gotta git me that booster! 

WOW!!!  When AIDS mutates, sorry AIDS patients, no vax for you; but when covid mutates, they got you covered!!  It's a no-brainer.

Update:

Lab Guy...my ignorance? Are you sure? All you do is repeat the lies of liars. Oh, you are so smart. Are you denying that vaccines cause death? Get off your science train for a moment and start thinking for yourself. Would you be so happy-go-lucky about vaccines if one of your loved ones should perish from them? Have you run to the trough of science so much that you have lost ALL of your humanity? Stop lying for the liars.

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  • Anonymous
    2 months ago

    What do you want us to tell you? They've tried many many times to make an HIV vaccine and had several promising candidates-- and every one of them ended up killing patients and having to halt the trials. Frankly I won't be surprised if the same is true of the Covid RNA thing. There's no long term testing on it either and the animal studies are not good.

  • 2 months ago

    There's a wishful ignorance on your part in assuming that all viruses are the same and if one can come up with a vaccine with one virus then one should be able to do a vaccine in all. Look around and tell where the vaccines for herpes and hepatitis C are at? 

    The coronavirus vaccine was not an overnight project. It started in the 1990's when SARS-CoV hit and later on MERS. That is when the vaccine projects started. It continued until we got hit with SARS-CoV-2. People infected either died or got over the infection with their bodies own immune response. The formation of T Cell immunity and B cell immunity over came the infection and when exposed in the future most did not get reinfected. It is rare to have reinfections with COVID. 

    HIV is a chronic infection where no individual has overcome their infection and because it is a chronic infection the antibodies their bodies make is not protective. One gets reinfected with other strains through having sex with other people that are infected and the same person with that chronic infection will create their own mutations making it much worse with regards to mutations than COVID.

    What a vaccine does it makes the body create antibodies that are supposed to protect the individual but it doesn't work because the antibodies HIV creates are not protective and so vaccines fail. The vaccines with other viruses are protective because the model in life that is a normal part of how those infections are overcome normally. Get infected with rubella or get the vaccine for rubella then you will be protected for life. Get a vaccine for HIV and nothing happens or get infected with HIV virus then you have a lifelong infection.

    You ignorance on the natural history and lifecycle of the viruses is enormous.

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    Your ignorance goes from complaining that there isn't a vaccine for HIV to you complaining that vaccines are killing people. 

    Grow up dude before it's too late. It isn't cute to be stupid. People are going to run away from you for being that stupid.

  • 2 months ago

    If you want the why you'll have to do the work to understand how viruses work, why there are different types and what that means for their reproductive action, until you do, you'll only be getting the informed opinion (hopefully!) of someone else.

    The short answer is, there is no money in vaccines.

    No drug company is researching them on anything other than a cosmetic level.

    No company is going to invest hundreds of millions to get a drug to market, only to wipe out the market and lose money.

    They can make vaccines pretty easily, as demonstrated, but there usually isn't much call since most aren't that infectious.

  • ?
    Lv 6
    2 months ago

    They have never been able to come up with an effective vax for HIV because of the way that virus mutates so quickly.

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