I  don't think we will get to the 80 % vaccinated rate for herd immunity i think this is the new normal the virus is not gonna go away .?

Why does it matter?  There are plenty of diseases in this over populated world.  The population growth is unsustainable and destroying the planet, but we continue to think that every single person should be saved by medical advancements.  

We are getting there in the U.K. 

I say that since the vaccines are only anticipated to be effective for about 6 months at this point, that I'm not sure why we are still pushing them.  The individuals vaccinated in Dec will need to be re-vaccinated in June or July.

** based on this, the vaccines don't lead to herd immunity and never were going to.

And that it's always been ridiculous to focus on a vaccine instead of treatment.

However, we know cases in the US began to drop in mid-January, long before most people had any vaccinations and almost no one had had 2nd vaccinations.

I haven't looked at the current reasoning for that.

One article I read in February is that most everyone who could get covid already got covid.  It's related to the memory cell changes that are not exclusive to covid.

- The doctor who wrote this article is not a freak/nobody.  He was a Surgeon General nominee under Obama. 

Is there a question in there somewhere?